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  WHAT Kingdom Hall did Ya'll go to?

  by thewiz in

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  i was looking at another thread.

  http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.asp?id=24809&site=3.

  and was wondering,if i'm not being too forward, what kh did everyone here go to.. i used to go to the cranston kh in ri, usa .

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  Plmcrzy,

  Did you happen to know James and Jeanet Macouglah(?). They were friends of ours they went to:

  Yucca Valley Ca

  Mojave Ca.

  Palm Springs Ca

  Joshua Tree Ca

  I think?
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  Why has God Permitted Wickedness?

  by hillary_step in

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  yes, i know what the wts teaches....but what do you believe?.

  if god exists why is there is so much suffering both among humans and even more so among his creation, where all animals must, deceive then eat one another to survive?

  if he does not exist why is there is so much suffering both among humans and even more so among nature where all animals must eat one another to survive?

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  HS,

  I can only guess at why God does what he does, as he has not given a clear answer that is written which we can point to.

  Perhaps these problems in life are not so bad, I mean it is a good thing too that we dont live thousands of years under these conditions.

  If God is going to give us eternal life, under much better conditions than present, maybe there is something that we can learn while experiencing these problems while sin and suffering are present, maybe something so valuable that it is worth us having to under go this painful experience.

  Maybe it is just as Paul said:

  2 Corinthians 4:17-18

  
  17 For though the tribulation is momentary and light, it works out for us a glory that is of more and more surpassing weight and is everlasting; 18 while we keep our eyes, not on the things seen, but on the things unseen. For the things seen are temporary, but the things unseen are everlasting.

  This is what I tend to believe I do feel there is a God and that all the good I see tells me he must be good too, and if he has allowed suffering he must have a good reason. Some things we can only really learn if we experience them first hand, like Jesus did when he came to this earth. These experiences that we will take with us when we go to heaven some good some bad may be things, that as we live forever, we will cherish for eternity, and truly make us better person. I can see God allowing us to suffer for these reasons and Im sure he has even better reasons than that.

  Eternity is a very long time no tell what God has in store for us to do during that time and how our experiences now may help us and others in the future.
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  How many CO'S & DO'S have left?

  by freedom96 in

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  does anyone know how many circuit and district overseers have either left completely or been disfellowshipped?

  any ideas too on perhaps bethelites, or missionaries?

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  If you are DF'd and your a congregation member your name is announced to the congregation.

  What happens when a CO, or DO gets the DF'd where is his name announced?
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  Old Dumb Farts Running WT Will Keep Laying Eggs

  by D wiltshire in

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  dumb farts running wt will keep laying eggs.

  these are modern times and the wt faces many more challenges than in the past.. will they meet these challenges or will the old stale farts that run the wt drive it into the ground?.

  it has been true, and said many times that wisdom belongs to the aged but maybe this is a bit too general to be applied to every situation perhaps in many areas of life yes, but not every area.

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  Fark,

  They know NOTHING about life, because they haven't lived one on the "outside" like real folks. For them to make rulings affecting jobs, marriages and families is not only a testament to their own arrogance, but a testament to their idiocy.

  Yes I agree 100%. I just hope they screw up royally and get the maximum amount exposer for what they really are. The pain they have caused children and families make me feel no punishment is too harsh for them.
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  Old Dumb Farts Running WT Will Keep Laying Eggs

  by D wiltshire in

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  dumb farts running wt will keep laying eggs.

  these are modern times and the wt faces many more challenges than in the past.. will they meet these challenges or will the old stale farts that run the wt drive it into the ground?.

  it has been true, and said many times that wisdom belongs to the aged but maybe this is a bit too general to be applied to every situation perhaps in many areas of life yes, but not every area.

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  BTTT
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  Please, I am so upset...I need some hugs...

  by Sentinel in

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  i am having a very difficult time and i am here right now because i know in my heart, that when i explain what has just happened to me a few minutes ago, you will understand.

  many of you are no doubt going through the same thing.. within several posts here, i have spoken of my mother.

  my dear sweet mother, who just turned 78, and who has been a faithful jw since 1959. she abandoned me in 1981, when i decided to leave the borg, and for twelve years she did not speak to me, write to me, call me, or visit me.

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  Sentenal,

  I have only read your starting thread and I want to say hang in there. My family(in the Borg) too refuses to have any thing to do with me. The WT has made them turn on me, and I am full of hate for the WT. I am trying to keep myself together over this, and when I read your 1st post I knew right away how strong those feeling can be and what a struggle it is just to function.

  So I say you are one tough cookie. Anybody in your shoes deserves a lot of credit.

  I hope and I pray those lawmakers for the Jehovah's Witnesss get a good taste of there own medicine. They have caused tremendeous harm to good good people and deserve every once of retribution they get.

  Faithful and Discrete Slave my ass! the nerve of those hypocrites. They teach hate with a loving smile on there lips.They have torn apart so many families that I want to throw up! They have hurts so many innocent people just to stay in power.

  I hope Sentenal, you get your mother back!
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  Have I Learned to Think Outside of My Box?

  by IslandWoman in

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  i was thinking today ( as i have many times) of those days in the jw world.

  over and over i now find it incredible that i could have thought that shunning was "good", that the door to door work was "productive", that to plan on allowing my child to die rather than to take blood was "god's will", that "worldly" people cannot know god, etc.

  etc.. it all seemed right, it all seemed good, it all seemed god approved.

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  IW,

  I have a question: How do I know that what I do now, what I believe now, what I say now is reality? In other words, how do I check myself to see if I am really thinking outside the box or have only made a new box for myself where things again seem good and right?

  Good Question, I ask myself that everyday. Life is full of uncertainty of what reality is. The need for us to pause and reflect on these question slows us down in insisting that our reality is the same as someone elses.

  I don't like to fight anymore I'm getting too old to fight people, but I will fight the WT I think till the day I die, because they have my family. I don't even like fighting them, I get no real joy from it, mainly want them out of power over peoples lives thru lies.
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  witness response to mind control information

  by D wiltshire in

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  that is bad !!

  dave, has jehovah's witnesses society proved itself by what it teaches, to love man and god and wife and child and to act for the betterment of all?

  which one of these ways mentioned does the society use?

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  BTTT
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  Medical Marijuana

  by Jigrigger in

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  does anyone know the society's view on the medical use of marijuana, or if they even have a policy regarding this?.

  jrig

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  Yes, you are allowed to smoke two grams a day as long as it is legal. No mixing with tobacco because that would be spiritism.

  Your not allow to go out in feildservice for aleast 2 hours after smoking you last joint.

  You will not be used to carry mikes or be a MS or Elder unless your life depended on smoking MJ, in that case as long as it doesn't interfear with providing for your family.
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  Arrested for going kingdumb and dumber hall!

  by D wiltshire in

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  arrested for going kingdumb hall!.

  last night (3/21) the mountain view (ca) police arrested me.. this happened as i was attending the sunnyvale congregation service meeting.. i was dfd last july and was told by the elders the conditions for reinstatement were meeting attendance, repentance along with not speaking to anyone or anyone speaking to me (shunning at its finest).

  (btw, i was dfd for apostasy).

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  Faraon,

  I just cut and pasted this from another thread that I posted on today to answer your question.

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  According to california law I was allowed a trial by jury and that was the route I was going to take even had the Judge call for a jury. As I was sitting in the court house the Judge was telling me how to select a jury, I started to get a little over whelmed and really didn't think I would be able to do a good job at defending myself, I guess a little nervous too so I asked the Judge what would be my fine if I pleaded guilty he said $50. I asked him if it would be a bad mark on my clean record and he said not to worry because he was a Judge and he had worse on his record but it didn't stop him from being a Judge.

  So the long and short I pleaded guilty and paid my small fine. In the process I was able to tell all in the court at that time to make sure to watch the Dateline that night and most their expressed that they would(facial expressions).

  Even durring all the proceedings I was able to explain to the court alittle about what the Society teaches about person who disagree with them and How my family who are witnesses shun me for fear they would themselves be shunned if they were caught fellowshipping with me. Those in the court were shocked and I'm sure I had there sympathy.

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  At this point I just felt no real good would have been accomplished except slight embarassment to the 4 elders who exaderated, and lied on the police report.

  Being I have almost Zero legal experience I figured what the hell $50. fine ain't nothing, and I was getting busy at my work so, I be back to that KH but next time with a group in case they try to push me around again.

  They really must be very scared of me to call the Cops when I didn't do anything. They deffinitly know I'm not scared of them. Maybe that what got them so upset with me because I told them I won't follow their rules.

  When they told me at my DF'n that I was not allowed to speak with the brother until I was reistated I told them "Lets see you try and stop me!" they got a little nervous. They are not used to haveing their authority in the Congregation challenged.